Bay Laurel in Zone 8a

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Well, there's the Califonia bay, Umbellularia californica. It's often said to be a lot stronger and more pungent than the regular one (and so should be used more sparingly). So I imagine if one was to use it exactly like the regular one, I imagine it could make ones food "less appetizing"

I am also aware that in cinnamon growing areas, cinnamon tree leaves are sometimes used as a bay leaf substitute (I used to have a small C. zeylancium as a houseplant and can confirm the leaves do indeed smell like cinnamon as well.)
 
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