Report on two tomato varieties

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I tried two new tomatos this year and HURRAH, both seem to be successful. I've had a few ripe ones to eat but they are just about to bust loose with big crops.
The first is Reisentrab. I got the seeds as a free gift with an order (forgot which seed company). Reisentraub is a German heirloom. The name means grape cluster and that's how they grow. The trusses can contain as many as a dozen cherry tomatos. The flavor is sweet and juicy, just right for salads. They are more restrained in growth than many tomatos and the foliage is not too thick to find your tomatos; they're right up top in plain sight. It puts most of its energy into fruit rather than foliage. It has one very good feature. The stems and flower clusters are heavily coated with stiff hairs which makes it hard for aphids and the ants who guard them to get around. As a matter of fact the hairs seem to pierce the aphids. I find dead aphid husks all over them.
The second is San Marzano. It's a great sauce tomato with very thick walls and small seed cavities. It doesn't contain much juice which makes it faster to cook down into sauce. The flavor is outstanding and in blind taste tests San Marzano sauce is almost always picked as the best. The skin is rather thick which makes them easy to scald and skin when canning them. Their solid texture also makes them a great salsa tomato. The plants are rather large and sprawling and the foliage very heavy, which may help prevent sun scalding in hot areas. They need lots of room. San Marzanos were almost lost. They were down to growing in only two gardens in Italy by members of the same family who had passed the seeds down through the generations. Depending on which garden the seeds came from they are designated San Marzanos 1 and 2. The variety I have is 1.
Neither of the two show any sign of disease and few pests. That may be due to resistance or just a good growing year. I highly recommend both varieties.
 

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Hoodat, I like your post. It is full of detail information which is usually not mentioned. I've been wanting to try the San Marzano for my canned salsa but with my limited space I just haven't gotten around to it. I only have room for 7 plants and now that you mentioned it gets pretty large, I really have to think about it. I have one tomatoe in a 15 gal. nursery container. It looks healthy but only has a few tomatoes on it. It's called "exotic blue green". Not sure if it's worth it.

Mary
 

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San Marzano is on my list to try. Now you have convinced me. There is a lot of difference in the growing conditions between SE MO and SO CAL. Hope it translates well.
 

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hoodat said:
I tried two new tomatos this year and HURRAH, both seem to be successful. I've had a few ripe ones to eat but they are just about to bust loose with big crops.
The first is Reisentrab. I got the seeds as a free gift with an order (forgot which seed company). Reisentraub is a German heirloom. The name means grape cluster and that's how they grow. The trusses can contain as many as a dozen cherry tomatos. The flavor is sweet and juicy, just right for salads. They are more restrained in growth than many tomatos and the foliage is not too thick to find your tomatos; they're right up top in plain sight. It puts most of its energy into fruit rather than foliage. It has one very good feature. The stems and flower clusters are heavily coated with stiff hairs which makes it hard for aphids and the ants who guard them to get around. As a matter of fact the hairs seem to pierce the aphids. I find dead aphid husks all over them.
The second is San Marzano. It's a great sauce tomato with very thick walls and small seed cavities. It doesn't contain much juice which makes it faster to cook down into sauce. The flavor is outstanding and in blind taste tests San Marzano sauce is almost always picked as the best. The skin is rather thick which makes them easy to scald and skin when canning them. Their solid texture also makes them a great salsa tomato. The plants are rather large and sprawling and the foliage very heavy, which may help prevent sun scalding in hot areas. They need lots of room. San Marzanos were almost lost. They were down to growing in only two gardens in Italy by members of the same family who had passed the seeds down through the generations. Depending on which garden the seeds came from they are designated San Marzanos 1 and 2. The variety I have is 1.
Neither of the two show any sign of disease and few pests. That may be due to resistance or just a good growing year. I highly recommend both varieties.
Hoodat, that is so funny! Those are the EXACT two that did fantastic for me this year as well. I just love the Reisentrab - I'll be saving seeds for next year. The flower clusters were so abundant it amazed me, and both the SM and Reisen did take over the garden and were so tall I just let them fall over.

I made a sauce with the SM's, with fresh basil from the garden, garlic and a little brown sugar - it was great!
 

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I'm in east central MO about 30 mi. west of St Louis and I have great success with San Marzanos.
They're what I use in all my salsa and the only tomato I enjoy eating.

THANX RICH
 

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i think i did some San Marzano's this year but i will have to check though my 30+ varieties i got going this year.

btw, how's that volunteer tomato doing that you weren't sure what it could have come from? i have a couple like that this year. one wasn't even supposed to be a tomato-it was supposed to be an eggplant. :/
 

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That does it for me. I kept hearing the San Marzanos were a top pick for a sauce tomato so I figured I'd have to try some at some point.

But to get such an honest and detailed feedback I'm going to plant some next year for sure. Thank you for doing that.
 

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dickiebird said:
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I'm in east central MO about 30 mi. west of St Louis and I have great success with San Marzanos.
They're what I use in all my salsa and the only tomato I enjoy eating.

THANX RICH
Good to know. I tried Roma last year and they were pretty puny, and got blight. This year I am fighting the Round-up overspray damage. It's always something! :/
 

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Great post. I have San Marzano this year. The fruits are still small and I was worried they mixed up the seed and I received pear tomatoes. Will have to relax and wait for them. The plants are looking great. Taller than I have ever had.
 
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