ID these two?

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Some new weeds that have popped up in my garden this fall. This first one is a prolific re-seeder. These have taken over a whole corner of the garden. Crushed leaves have a lettuce-like smell.

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This one is in the mint family, but new to me. The plant was 6' tall, but the wind blew it over. The stem was stocky and squared. Minty smelling leaves. I am wondering if I can eat it (or make tea with it), LOL.

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in your top 2 photos have the same thing growing around the heat pump, like you said they just showed up. be interesting to see what it is...
 

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We get the top one too, it's in the daisy family (when it flowers it makes tiny yellow daisy like pad with short white petals)

The bottom one may be some sort of hyssop.
 

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I think that tiny daisy could be it. I have seen it in other places in my yard before, just not in such profusion. It must be *really* happy in my garden. Looks like they all sprouted, so hopefully the winter freeze will kill it off for me.

Korean mint looks very close to the second one, but . So many members of the mint family, I don't know if I'll ever nail it down. I'm in the woods and forage a lot, but I don't recall seeing this one growing wild. At 6' tall, it's kinda hard to miss. Found one description of Korean mint stating it grows almost 4' tall. This thing came up as a single stalk too. Pretty, but I don't need mint turned loose in my garden. :eek:
 

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I'm not sure any are actually toxic per se , but given how many of them are used for various medicinal purposes, I imagine that some of them could be dangerous in high enough doses. Also if by "mint" you are covering everything in the Lamiacae family, you would have to include things like Salvia dividorium.

There are also a few members of Plectranthus I think may be bad ideas to consume, given how they smell (if they repel cats and moles, they presumably are not great things to put in your mouth) At least one is the bane of my existence when I go plant shopping in the spring, since it looks like P. ambionicus (Spanish Thyme) an herb I like to have every year (for use in things like horatiki ) and which is often a bit elusive* Luckily for me, it doesn't smell like Spanish Thyme, so I've never made the more dangerous mistake.

* at least it was. This year I was clever enough to bring my plants in for the winter (both the Spanish thyme and the Cuban oregano), so as long as I am not stupid and make sure to keep at least a sprig around, I'm good (Spanish thyme roots REALLY easily) I'm set for good. Handy thing too, my main source retired this year, so after this, if I need fresh, it's mail order.
 

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