Poop in the hole....

lesa

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I thought I remembered someone on here saying they put chicken poop into the hole, when they plant tomatoes...was I dreaming? Or, is this a good idea?
 

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I put composted chicken manure under my tomatoes.I believe fresh manure will burn your plants.I may try some dried manure before it is composted,just to experiment.

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I had the idea that it might compost (and not be hot) by the time the roots reached it??
 

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lesa said:
I had the idea that it might compost (and not be hot) by the time the roots reached it??
Chicken poop needs something like a year before its not too hot.
 

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Rabbit poop can go directly into the hole - chicken poop is too hot. I did, however, make a lasagna garden up the side of my house using litter from chicken run - composted leaves, poop, straw. I've planted in it and haven't lost anything yet. Time will tell.
 

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I do a shove full of compost and a handful of crushed egg shell into the hole, then plant the tomato 80% under the dirt.

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The bed on the right were the tomatoes I grew last year, only 7 plants were there... look at those monsters from the extra love I threw in the hole! :lol:
 

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Another good reason not to use fresh manure is the "e-coli factor"..This is another reason why manure should be aged for a least a yr. before use.
We see e-coli outbreaks in produce in the news fairly often these days. Spinach from i can't remember where come to mind in a recent outbreak.I also read a article not long ago about workers pooping in the feilds in which they are harvesting produce, a good way to transmit e-coli.This was someplace south of he USA border.
 

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I used the old bedding with poo as mulch beside and in my walking areas it seems to not hurt the plants at all then they receive the nutrients from it when I water. At the end of the season it will just get tilled under and be fertilizer for next year.
 

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It is a shame when contaminated fruits and vegetables (should probably include nuts in there) interferes with our enjoyment of these healthful foods. Here at home, I hate to put things that are even just unappetizing in my food gardens.

Unappetizing certainly leaves out the various things that are sprinkled on by some gardeners. And yet, when I'm faced with losing things to bugs, I don't sprinkle something on just to entertain them. Fresh water and sunshine is a helpful ally in getting the plants back to food status, for people.

All my vegetables are grown organically. Composted manure is a part of my own composting. It has been years since I've used composted manure anywhere except in the sweet corn and, really, it has been years since I've done that now. Still, manure is an important compost ingredient.

I buy bags of organic fertilizer and a gallon of fish emulsion each year. The bagged fertilizer has bone meal, blood meal, feather meal, and other poultry by-products. In other word, its the parts of the whole bird. The material is composted and run thru a pelleting machine. It DON'T smell good! I try to give the plants plenty of time before use and usually, till the fertilizer into the ground before planting or setting out transplants. The fish emulsion comes later for some of the veggies.

Salads are not much of a part of my diet. I grow a lot of greens but nearly all end up in a hot pan with a little oil, on top the stove. Have you ever thought of taking "salad dressing" -- and, breaking it down to its 3 common parts: oil, vinegar, and seasonings??

Put the oil in a hot pan, toss in the veggies, splash with a little vinegar, and sprinkle with seasonings. Bacon bits? Okay. Lime juice? Fine. E. coli? Nope.

I'm disappointed that this recent recall of lettuce has just taken place. Unfortunately, most of the illnesses occurred in April, the bagged lettuce is already past its pull date, and we are only just now getting the news :/.

The 2006 recall of organic lettuce from the California farm resulted in 200 reported cases of illness, 31 cases of kidney failure and 3 deaths (according to Wikipedia). The best the researchers could determine was that the contamination came from a cattle farm that was nearly a mile from the lettuce. Wildlife was suspected as the carriers . . .

That event didn't drive me to get all my food out of a box even tho' I have some very direct experience with what kidney failure means. I hate to see cats in the garden . . . I'm even a little disappointed by some of my favorite creatures, the birds :rolleyes:.

Did you know that the food industry often now requires the removal of windbreaks and other wildlife habitats anywhere near truck farms? "Leafy Green Program" I'm not entirely in control out there in the wilds of the garden . . . but, I'm a participant :).

Steve
 

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I thought I'd post a little food for thought, lesa. On Illinois Gardener last week, the U of I Professor (who is their main host(ess)) said that in Central Illinois we shouldn't add anything to our soil for tomatoes because here it is acidic and rich enough for tomatoes. Now, I KNOW that housing developments have been known to strip the topsoil down to the clay to level out properties. When I lived in Champaign my property was clay, but 25 miles SSE where I NOW live I have (in some places) 18" of topsoil. Since my Amish farrier told me that HIS property, one hour WSW in Arthur, IL (that he moved into about 8 years ago) had been OVER manured--I didn't even know that that was possible. But, I see that you are in upstate NY and I believe that your land may have been covered with glaciation when WE were. This is just FYI, not a lecture or giving advice, just posting in case anybody hadn't thought of it! :D
 

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