Greensage45
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I am very much like HiD as far as roses, I either brought the poor thing home because I knew the store was killing it, that I forgot the name, or never knew the name.
My knowledge range is mostly my personal experiences and I love that there are some folks here with a plethora of information on roses and such.
I have never grown a Moss rose, so this one is very strange to me, I can recognize them from their pictures, but I do not know them personally.
I know roses by: Growth habit; bush-type, rambler, and climber. I know roses by the bloom shape and clustering; floribunda, tea, english.
I am sure I am barely out of Rose Kindergarten and some folks may attribute a beautiful picture in my garden as meaning I am 'knowledgeable', but sadly I am just a gardener with a desert and praying for rain on any given day!
I do like the smell of roses, but that has never stopped me from having a scentless or even not-so-nicely scented rose in my garden. One in mind is Austrian Copper...yikes, that rose stinks to high heaven, but it is soooo lovely! The odd thing I find with Austrian Copper is that the leaves smell wonderful, but the blooms will send you a running.
I also have a very special rose that I share with people as often as I can; it is called Rosea Woodsii or Woods Rose. It is a privet rose (a new type name for most folks). Yeah a privet rose. These are not heard of too often, but this particular one is a North American Native. It is found throughout North America, but rarely seen by rose lovers in the garden. It grows tall canes, straight as an arrow, with minimal side shoots. It grows via runners and the runners will reach a considerable height in no time. These are excellent roses for creating a barrier on a far back lot. Especially nice if you have deer problems or bears and you want to prevent them from pushing through onto your property. They are highly thorned. They bloom in pink, the smell is lovely, and the hips are very sweet and abundant.
photo from this site: http://www.cwnp.org/photopgs/rdoc/rowoodsii.html
My latest endeavor has been growing my own roses by way of the hips (as you guys have seen), this is because most grafted roses have a short lifespan and are subject to the hardiness of the parent rootstock. Most of our roses here in New Mexico are either brought in from California rootstock or Texas rootstock. I personally find that the California rootstock hates the dry hot desert and alkaline soil, where as the Texas rootstock is much hardier. I really prefer roses on their own roots and most 'named' roses can be obtained on their own roots.
It is a known fact that a rose on its own rootstock can potentially live for hundreds of years. I once read an article that when the Berlin Wall fell, several unknown/lost roses were found in the public rose gardens. It was reported that some of these roses were mentioned in writings of Shakespeare and were thought to be lost to antiquity. The article went on to say that budgrafts would be sent across the globe in an effort to ensure the safety and continued success of these old roses. (interesting tidbit)
OK, I am going to go take a picture of my Woods Rose as it looks today (this date), and hopefully it will not look to heat stressed or beaten down by this year's lack of rainfall. This privet/bush has now been with me for six years. I adore it! I do keep on the runners and I pot them up for unsuspecting gardeners!
this rose is 10ft tall.
Sorry for such a long post, but I think I will rewrite my roses from seed instructions here later for future references.
Thanks for being so patient, and thanks for thinking I know about roses when I am just a rose lover. The compliment is nice but not deserved.
Ron
My knowledge range is mostly my personal experiences and I love that there are some folks here with a plethora of information on roses and such.
I have never grown a Moss rose, so this one is very strange to me, I can recognize them from their pictures, but I do not know them personally.
I know roses by: Growth habit; bush-type, rambler, and climber. I know roses by the bloom shape and clustering; floribunda, tea, english.
I am sure I am barely out of Rose Kindergarten and some folks may attribute a beautiful picture in my garden as meaning I am 'knowledgeable', but sadly I am just a gardener with a desert and praying for rain on any given day!
I do like the smell of roses, but that has never stopped me from having a scentless or even not-so-nicely scented rose in my garden. One in mind is Austrian Copper...yikes, that rose stinks to high heaven, but it is soooo lovely! The odd thing I find with Austrian Copper is that the leaves smell wonderful, but the blooms will send you a running.
I also have a very special rose that I share with people as often as I can; it is called Rosea Woodsii or Woods Rose. It is a privet rose (a new type name for most folks). Yeah a privet rose. These are not heard of too often, but this particular one is a North American Native. It is found throughout North America, but rarely seen by rose lovers in the garden. It grows tall canes, straight as an arrow, with minimal side shoots. It grows via runners and the runners will reach a considerable height in no time. These are excellent roses for creating a barrier on a far back lot. Especially nice if you have deer problems or bears and you want to prevent them from pushing through onto your property. They are highly thorned. They bloom in pink, the smell is lovely, and the hips are very sweet and abundant.
photo from this site: http://www.cwnp.org/photopgs/rdoc/rowoodsii.html
My latest endeavor has been growing my own roses by way of the hips (as you guys have seen), this is because most grafted roses have a short lifespan and are subject to the hardiness of the parent rootstock. Most of our roses here in New Mexico are either brought in from California rootstock or Texas rootstock. I personally find that the California rootstock hates the dry hot desert and alkaline soil, where as the Texas rootstock is much hardier. I really prefer roses on their own roots and most 'named' roses can be obtained on their own roots.
It is a known fact that a rose on its own rootstock can potentially live for hundreds of years. I once read an article that when the Berlin Wall fell, several unknown/lost roses were found in the public rose gardens. It was reported that some of these roses were mentioned in writings of Shakespeare and were thought to be lost to antiquity. The article went on to say that budgrafts would be sent across the globe in an effort to ensure the safety and continued success of these old roses. (interesting tidbit)
OK, I am going to go take a picture of my Woods Rose as it looks today (this date), and hopefully it will not look to heat stressed or beaten down by this year's lack of rainfall. This privet/bush has now been with me for six years. I adore it! I do keep on the runners and I pot them up for unsuspecting gardeners!
Sorry for such a long post, but I think I will rewrite my roses from seed instructions here later for future references.
Thanks for being so patient, and thanks for thinking I know about roses when I am just a rose lover. The compliment is nice but not deserved.
Ron
