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flowerbug said:
this is related to my search for the parents of Purple Dove...
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I wonder how anyone could find the parental combination that Robert Lobitz used to create Purple Dove. Most of what he released was bush beans. I would imagine that is what he mostly worked with. He worked with Purple Kidney beans. He had a snap bean called Purple Duke, Purple Queen and Royalty Purple Pod. These were the only purple podded beans I could see on his personal collection list that were purple podded.
 
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flowerbug said:
interesting tidbit came across variety of bean called "Trionfo Violetto", but very few pictures of seeds of this variety. has anyone here grown it or found a good picture of the seeds themselves?

of course this is related to my search for the parents of Purple Dove... :)

the seeds appear to be pale to white and about the right shape and seed eye of a possible PD parental unit...
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Hope this helps


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Blue-Jay said:
I wonder how anyone could find the parental combination that Robert Lobitz used to create Purple Dove. Most of what he released was bush beans. I would imagine that is what he mostly worked with. He worked with Purple Kidney beans. He had a snap bean called Purple Duke, Purple Queen and Royalty Purple Pod. These were the only purple podded beans I could see on his personal collection list that were purple podded.
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i'll look into those, thanks Russ. :)
 
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ruralmamma said:
I've grown Trionfo Violetto for probably five years now. It might be a day or two, but I'll take a picture of my seed.
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if you do this could you please put a ruler of some kind in the picture for a scale reference? :) otherwise the pictures already posted have been a help. thank you either way. :)
 
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RL beans...

Purple Duke

not in circulation from what i'm seeing with a casual search.


Purple Queen

in circulation (seeds do not look similar enough to PD to be any indication).


Royalty Purple Pod

in circulation (pretty much indistinguishable from Purple Queen seeds do not look similar enough to PD to be any indication).
 
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flowerbug said:
Purple Duke

not in circulation from what i'm seeing with a casual search.
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I wonder if one of Robert's Purple podded beans were crossed with some African bean that might not even have been a purple bean but contributed to the new seed coat pattern and one of his purple podded beans passed on the purple pod character to the new bean. Purple Dove may have even been an F3 or F4 segregation that stablized in a few grow outs.

Is Purple Dove a true bush or does it grow with short runners? I have all of those beans of Robert's that have that seed coat pattern. Oddly the only one I have grown out is Blooming Prairie.
 
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Blue-Jay said:
I wonder if one of Robert's Purple podded beans were crossed with some African bean that might not even have been a purple bean but contributed to the new seed coat pattern and one of his purple podded beans passed on the purple pod character to the new bean. Purple Dove may have even been an F3 or F4 segregation that stablized in a few grow outs.
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i would like to know, but so far the most information i've got is that Alan Kapuler may have gotten some of RL's records but Alan passed away in 2023.


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Is Purple Dove a true bush or does it grow with short runners? I have all of those beans of Robert's that have that seed coat pattern. Oddly the only one I have grown out is Blooming Prairie.
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PD is bush to semi-runner, i currently have one growing up over a tomato plant that may be an outcross.

i've grown all RL purple beans with that seed coat pattern i could find in your pages and only one is best in terms of production, earlyness and fresh eating quality.

normally it is my most reliable bean, but this season has been a challenge to every bean i'm growing including PD. the last planting of PD may be the best one i get in terms of production quality and results.
 
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