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heirloomgal

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Well, the time has come to spill some beans so to speak, lol.

I'm a believer in the adage 'where your attention goes, grows' so I really make an effort in life to focus on the positive. Thus, I didn't want to be on the thread here hashing out my challenges this year, and sinking energy into it. However, I feel like I've now turned a corner and can allow myself to share some of the struggle of the last month or so since I think it's finally all over. I can honestly say the last 5 weeks have been the greatest struggle for my beans that I've ever had in my life, bar none. Let me preface my ordeal by saying I don't know if I had a hand in my problem or not, but I probably did to some degree because last year I did 2 things I don't normally do. I suspect these things played a large part. 1) I had a bunch of solar lights placed around the edges of the garden last year, about 16. 2) I decided not to till in the fall.

About a week after I planted out all my beans, I started finding cut down plants in the morning. Not the nipped at ground level damage I've seen cutworms do before. This climbed. At first I thought this was a passing thing, and I had the crazy luck to have significantly overplanted. (Crazy luck I tell you.) But within 3 days, I was finding up to 8 dead plants each morning, cut many inches up from the ground. I only planted about 6 of each variety or less. So I started buying bottles of diatomaceous earth, which were costly. I bought some online in bulk for a better price, but had to keep buying bottles retail until it arrived at the doorstep. It cost nearly $250 between the emergency bottles and the 25 pound bag, but it seemed to end my struggles. Or so I thought. I guess this bug had a lifecycle wherein it had a vulnerable phase to the powder... and then it didn't. A week or so after the nightly powder applications (so much work!) they were able to crawl across it no problem, and I started losing bean plants again. Lots of them.

They were chopping other plants too now - with big stems. If they couldn't kill the plant by wrapping around a too thick middle, the worm climbed even higher to chop branches and leaves or even the top growth of the plant. Tomatoes, sunchokes, ground cherries, prickly zucchini stems. They killed a lot of large marigolds, which is ironic, because those are often employed in pest control.

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I tried making aluminum foil collars for the bean stems. They climbed right across them. I bought BBQ skewers, the really hard wooden ones, and stuck those beside the stems of the bean plants and tied them with yarn. There was no way I cold do all of them, but I did the plants in the spots where the worm/s had been active. I also sifted large amounts of soil around the plants - desperate to sift the bugs out. Nothing. Tying the wooden sticks to the stems seemed to work very well. Until it didn't. I guess the worm life cycle changed yet again. I couldn't believe my eyes, but they started to chew right through the hard wood along with the bean stems.
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So I bought 3 foot long, very large BBQ skewers, much larger and thicker than the last but just as rock hard. To my utter astonishment, they climbed those too, up to 2 feet high, and chewed right through like a razor. The fava bean below had the XL skewer beside, and still the worm chewed right through. Piece is on the ground.

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The whole thing was beyond terrible. But!!! I am thrilled to report that while I lost a lot of plants, I lost only 1 variety totally this year (Perle von Marbach) but I still have more seed. A variety called 'Stripey Snap' was hit hard, and there may be only 1 or 2 plants left but it's enough to try again for sure if the plant matures. There may be a few poles with only 2 or 3 plants around it now, but I'm happy for what remains. It's nothing short of a miracle that the main garden, which was affected the worst, is still going to be fine!

What a month it's been!!:th
 

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One of the symptoms I read of vascular collapse in beans is wilting, but in my case there was none of that. The plants were perfectly healthy. What's left of them now even still looks good. All my googling seems to point to sunscald or overwatering. So, between the heat and all the rain that is entirely possible.
I’m heartened to find I’m not alone in this phenomenon. It’s natural to either feel one has done something wrong - any manure in the soil wasn’t well enough rotted was one thought I had - or fear a disease which will spread or be in contaminated soil etc.

It has been unusually hot here too. No rain but my partner assiduously waters. But whether by rain or by watering, each plant in the row will be getting roughly the same amount, so it’s surprising that one or two plants here and there just have a weakness that the others don’t have, in spite of having grown strongly.

I’m grateful for this discussion.
 

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Well, the time has come to spill some beans so to speak, lol.

I'm a believer in the adage 'where your attention goes, grows' so I really make an effort in life to focus on the positive. Thus, I didn't want to be on the thread here hashing out my challenges this year, and sinking energy into it. However, I feel like I've now turned a corner and can allow myself to share some of the struggle of the last month or so since I think it's finally all over. I can honestly say the last 5 weeks have been the greatest struggle for my beans that I've ever had in my life, bar none. Let me preface my ordeal by saying I don't know if I had a hand in my problem or not, but I probably did to some degree because last year I did 2 things I don't normally do. I suspect these things played a large part. 1) I had a bunch of solar lights placed around the edges of the garden last year, about 16. 2) I decided not to till in the fall.

About a week after I planted out all my beans, I started finding cut down plants in the morning. Not the nipped at ground level damage I've seen cutworms do before. This climbed. At first I thought this was a passing thing, and I had the crazy luck to have significantly overplanted. (Crazy luck I tell you.) But within 3 days, I was finding up to 8 dead plants each morning, cut many inches up from the ground. I only planted about 6 of each variety or less. So I started buying bottles of diatomaceous earth, which were costly. I bought some online in bulk for a better price, but had to keep buying bottles retail until it arrived at the doorstep. It cost nearly $250 between the emergency bottles and the 25 pound bag, but it seemed to end my struggles. Or so I thought. I guess this bug had a lifecycle wherein it had a vulnerable phase to the powder... and then it didn't. A week or so after the nightly powder applications (so much work!) they were able to crawl across it no problem, and I started losing bean plants again. Lots of them.

They were chopping other plants too now - with big stems. If they couldn't kill the plant by wrapping around a too thick middle, the worm climbed even higher to chop branches and leaves or even the top growth of the plant. Tomatoes, sunchokes, ground cherries, prickly zucchini stems. They killed a lot of large marigolds, which is ironic, because those are often employed in pest control.

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I tried making aluminum foil collars for the bean stems. They climbed right across them. I bought BBQ skewers, the really hard wooden ones, and stuck those beside the stems of the bean plants and tied them with yarn. There was no way I cold do all of them, but I did the plants in the spots where the worm/s had been active. I also sifted large amounts of soil around the plants - desperate to sift the bugs out. Nothing. Tying the wooden sticks to the stems seemed to work very well. Until it didn't. I guess the worm life cycle changed yet again. I couldn't believe my eyes, but they started to chew right through the hard wood along with the bean stems.
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So I bought 3 foot long, very large BBQ skewers, much larger and thicker than the last but just as rock hard. To my utter astonishment, they climbed those too, up to 2 feet high, and chewed right through like a razor. The fava bean below had the XL skewer beside, and still the worm chewed right through. Piece is on the ground.

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The whole thing was beyond terrible. But!!! I am thrilled to report that while I lost a lot of plants, I lost only 1 variety totally this year (Perle von Marbach) but I still have more seed. A variety called 'Stripey Snap' was hit hard, and there may be only 1 or 2 plants left but it's enough to try again for sure if the plant matures. There may be a few poles with only 2 or 3 plants around it now, but I'm happy for what remains. It's nothing short of a miracle that the main garden, which was affected the worst, is still going to be fine!

What a month it's been!!:th
That’s beyond awful @heirloomgal. My heartfelt sympathies. It makes the one or two giving up the ghost, which I was worrying about, seem very minor.

Have you identified the destructive caterpillar? You seem confident the attack is under control now, thank goodness. Have they moved on, or into a different phase of their life cycle?

Great that you haven’t any irreplaceable losses, but I can imagine the distress and desperation you’ve been experiencing.
 
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