Getting rid of sod for garden plot...

[secuono]

How do I get rid of the grass so I can use a tiller to make a garden plot?
I'm guessing the cheapest way is to get my shovel out and go at it, eh?
Is there any tiller that can chop grass and the dirt?

 

[so lucky]

I have only had to scalp the earth in small areas at a time. I just use my handy dandy ginsu knife and filet (actually saw) the sod off the dirt. Otherwise, the turf/grass mat is so tough, my shovel just bounces off of it.
I think there is a tool you can buy or rent that is specially made for slicing sod off the ground. A hand tool. Like a very sharp straight shovel at a different angle.

 

[Smart Red]

I use my 8-horse rear tine tiller to cut off the grass. Running it backwards seems to cut the sod below soil level. Then I rake the sod off, and go forward to dug into the roots. I rake those off as well, then I am relatively free to set the tiller to the desired depth.

It works for me, although, I haven't done that in a couple of years since the raised beds don't needing tilling at all. I just asked DS today if he'd check out the big tiller so I'll be trying to plant new ground soon.

 

[Chickie'sMomaInNH]

well, i'm guilty of using my tiller to break new ground without taking up the layer of sod first. it's not always fun the first year you start a new area like this. i'm usually hurting for a day or two after i've worked a new area. i will remove the grass and weed clots when i see them. i'll run the tiller over the area at least twice before using it for planting.

my tiller is small but has been rugged enough to be used to break new ground. i have an Airens front tine tiller with a Subaru engine. (made in USA!)

 

[NwMtGardener]

I just used my spade and dug it out, one shovelful at a time :/ i only did that in some of my flower beds, my raised veggie bed i just covered the grass till it was dead (with black plastic or the like, i think i used pond liner) then we transferred a ton of dirt from in between our house and garage to that area, and built the wooden frame around it.

 

[dickiebird]

Here's the tiller I use to chop the grass and dirt!!

THANX RICH

 

[journey11]

My DH just uses the tiller to make a few passes. We don't remove it either. We mow it very short first, then till. The few that are left top-side-up, I pull out the clods by hand. Those turned under eventually die and add organic matter back into the soil. UNLESS you have any annoying invasive grasses to deal with. Tilling the quackgrass usually results in a proliferation of it. I've had to resort to roundup to get it under control. Regular ol' lawn grass dies pretty easily with tilling though.

 

[Ridgerunner]

The way Dad always prepared a large area was to hitch up both plow horses to the turning plow and turn the grass several inches under, then use a disc harrow to cut up the dirt clods, then a drag harrow to level it. But he was dealing with hay grasses, not invasive quackgrass or Bermuda. He’d grow tobacco or corn in one place for a couple of years, then sow it in hay and turn another area for the row crops, practicing crop rotation.

When I moved here, a neighbor turned my 50’ x 75’ garden plot with a tractor and turning plow, then used a big tractor tiller to break it up and level it. Ever since then though, I prepare it by hand, either with a shovel or mattock to break up the weeds and grass, then use a tiller to level it. I remove all grass, especially grass roots, but often leave some weeds. If they have gone to seed or even to flower, I’ll try to remove weeds, but otherwise they generally just die and rot. If the weeds are big enough and thick enough to tangle my tiller, I generally remove them or untangle my tiller regularly when I’m leveling it.

For my smaller areas like the flower beds or strawberries, I break up the ground with a mattock or shovel (usually mattock. It is easier to break up the ground, especially if it is rocky) and pick out any grass clumps and roots. I have Bermuda so any grass root or even grass stem left in there will send out roots and shoots if it is anywhere near the surface. I hate Bermuda in the garden but it’s a great hay, pasture, and lawn cover. It’s best to wait a couple of weeks after you dig it up before you set out plants or sow seeds. That gives stuff time to die and the grass I miss time to sprout. I try extra hard to remove any grass roots or stems where I’m planting or sowing. Otherwise when I try to pull the sprouting grass, I also disturb or pull up the good stuff. Gardening is not supposed to be stressful but every now and then I use some words my Mommy would not approve of. That can be one of those occasions.

For my strawberries, I put down a thick layer of green stuff, mostly grass clippings, and covered that with some excess slightly deformed roofing metal I had laying around thanks to a 70 mile an hour straight line wind and poor construction practices by the people I bought this place from. They didn’t understand that short smooth nails don’t work real well to hold down metal roofs on sheds in high winds. Anyway, that’s another story. I left that covered with a few layers of that metal for about a year. That green stuff turned into a thin layer of compost. The Bermuda had runners all under that but they were pretty easy to dig out.

If it is a big area it might be worth paying someone to turn it for you, either with a turning plow or a good heavy tiller, especially if you are in a hurry. Maybe ask at the feed store or Ace hardware store, someplace like that, if they know someone that would do that for you, or chat with neighbors. Or you can try your tiller or get busy with a shovel or mattock.

Good luck! Get a good pair of gloves and good work boots. Don't try to use a shovel for that unless you have good boots. You really don't want Plantar's Fasciitis. Trust me on that one.

 

[catjac1975]

You may be sorry if you chop the grass instead of removing it. It will regrow into your flower bed and it will be hard to weed.

 

[canesisters]

Just about everywhere I plant used to be 'grass'. I have had pretty good luck so far by using a shovel to scrape the first inch or so off (goes to the chickens) and then covering the dirt with cardboard or scrap plywood for a few weeks. Peek under every few days to see if anything is growing and yank that out. After a while, nothing else seems to be coming up and it's ready to plant and then MULCH HEAVY. I don't have to do a whole lot of weeding from the middle of the beds..... Now the edges... that's a different story because the 'lawn' wants very badly to move into the rich, damp planting beds... LOL