Rare Peas - Identification

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and sometimes it's just a mutation that doesn't ever work out. this poor pea plant never got green and faded out shortly after this picture was taken. it had just enough energy from the seed and then kaput.

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Which can explain how even properly saved seed - in the absence of crossing - could still produce green offspring. And apparently those green offspring result from changing a dominant Arg/Arg into a recessive?

Can probably rule out exposure to radioactive substances and gene splitting-I jest.

The odds of an entire population being a dominate/dominate are extremely low as recessive genes are hidden. Plus very few traits are a simple A/a gene controlled. Then you have modifier genes that can mask genes hiding some nasties. Also can have a series of genes that (for lack of a better term) override a dominant gene. Add to this, no matter how good you are, wind, insects can pollinate your pop with something you don’t want. Why plant breeders tried haploid breeding but even then unwanted traits are magnified.

It is easier to breed a pop controlled by recessive genes than dominant genes.
 

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Which can explain how even properly saved seed - in the absence of crossing - could still produce green offspring. And apparently those green offspring result from changing a dominant Arg/Arg into a recessive?

Can probably rule out exposure to radioactive substances and gene splitting-I jest.

The odds of an entire population being a dominate/dominate are extremely low as recessive genes are hidden. Plus very few traits are a simple A/a gene controlled. Then you have modifier genes that can mask genes hiding some nasties. Also can have a series of genes that (for lack of a better term) override a dominant gene. Add to this, no matter how good you are, wind, insects can pollinate your pop with something you don’t want. Why plant breeders tried haploid breeding but even then unwanted traits are magnified.

It is easier to breed a pop controlled by recessive genes than dominant genes.
Thank you @seedcorn for your input on this. I guess this pea is a truly complicated affair!
 

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and sometimes it's just a mutation that doesn't ever work out. this poor pea plant never got green and faded out shortly after this picture was taken. it had just enough energy from the seed and then kaput.

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That is a very strange pea indeed. Looks like an albino o_O
 

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The 'Argenteum' peas are beginning to flower, and I'm surprised how pretty they are. More ornamental than I expected.
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I'm doing a large grow out of many types of peas this year too - here is 'Large Manitoba'. It looks a bit more like lettuce than peas. Very light coloured, almost floppy, big eared foliage. Makes a remarkably large shelling pea pod despite being a very small dwarf variety.

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Here is the very common 'Strike' pea. I bought only four plants last years in a cell pack at a garden centre and grew then on a lark. The taste was quite good, and the productions was excellent for only 4 plants so I saved nearly all the seeds it produced. This is all the seeds I collected planted into one windowbox. It is one of the first to be fully flowering, Argenteum has only a few flowers so far. I can see why this pea is so popular. Tough and quick producing, with a sweet taste.
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Given the 'pea' thread title, gonna post my pea pics here this season for anyone interested.
Here are some 'Gold Harvest' soup pea blooms. Surprised how pretty this one is too.
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A unique pea called 'Parsley Pea', but goes by many other names, grown for its leaves and shoots primarily. A Calvin Lamborn pea I believe.
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'Strike' Peas already making significant sized pods. Very quick.
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Trying a new mulch on the peas, cedar hedge clippings. Given by a neighbour.
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My first 'Sugar Ann' Snap pea blossoms. Only 1/2 the seeds sprouted as I planted them quite early; it's a variety that seems to be very prone to rot in cool weather, as many sweet types are.

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'Dwarf Grey Sugar', one of the tallest peas of them all. No blooms yet though.
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'Swedish Red' & 'Black Eyed Susan' peas on one side (for dry use in pea soup). On the other side are 'Harry Burton's Shelling' and 'Sugaree' peas for eating out of the pod.
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More various pea varieties.
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Given the 'pea' thread title, gonna post my pea pics here this season for anyone interested.
Here are some 'Gold Harvest' soup pea blooms. Surprised how pretty this one is too.
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Very pretty & unusual flowers for a pea - almost ornamental. A scarce variety too, although I may be able to find them on this side of the border.

And you grow Black Eyed Susan? Not many of us have that one.
 

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Very pretty & unusual flowers for a pea - almost ornamental. A scarce variety too, although I may be able to find them on this side of the border.

And you grow Black Eyed Susan? Not many of us have that one.
I'm giving dry peas a whirl this year, never tried to grow them before. Ordered this one as it was described as being one of the highest producing of all on offer. The only info I have on it is, it came from Will Bonsall in 2013. Have you any information on this variety @Zeedman ? I've only heard this name in relation to beans.
 
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