tetra-cis-lycopene

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After reading thread on tomatoes, interested in yellow. Couple questions:

What do you know about tetra-cis-lycopene?

Where would I find the variety Amish yellowish Orange Oxheart?

Anyone grown Orange Crimea or Chef’s choice Orange Hybrid T?
 
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As far as I know @seedcorn that is the more bio-available form of lycopene found only in orange tomatoes. When I was selling tom seeds I had a 'high lycopene' section of packets. I haven't read about that in awhile, but there was some discussion at one point that the 't' tangerine lycopene was bio-available raw as well as cooked. Before that it was thought to be only available in processed tom products. Cis-lycopene is pretty amazing for the health benefits it apparently provides.

There is a great tomato info site for variety breakdowns and sometimes available sources - http://tatianastomatobase.com/

Unfortunately orange tomatoes have a bit of a reputation as being bland; I combat that by dry growing them as much as possible. A true yellow in tomatoes is quite rare. Most are really golden orange, though 'Taxi' is canary yellow and a few others.

Blue tomatoes are also showing significant promise as a varietal type with superior health benefits in terms of antioxidants.

 
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I don't know anything about the antioxidant, Seedcorn.

Tatiana calls Gold Dust a "tangerine" version of Taxi, if that is some importance. I have grown Gold Dust only once. It was before the idea on where the slugs that can attack the tomatoes were mostly coming from (the lawn). They were very damaging to some of the tomatoes, including those fruits. Still, I was able to enjoy some and they were tasty.

Both Taxi and Gold Rush are determinants so have a short season of production. Tomatofest offers seed for those and a Strawberry Orange Oxheart if those have any appeal. Tomato Growers Supply has several oxhearts and Gold Dust.

I feel that I'm slightly off-base on all this.

Steve
 

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Unfortunately orange tomatoes have a bit of a reputation as being bland; I combat that by dry growing them as much as possible. A true yellow in tomatoes is quite rare. Most are really golden orange, though 'Taxi' is canary yellow and a few others.
Couldn't agree more - for yellow. I do grow a couple true-yellow tomatoes, but most of those I've tried were rather tasteless (including "Yellow Brandywine") or too watery. A heavy yield is meaningless if the flavor (or lack thereof) makes them useless. I did like the true-yellow "Willie's Garden" that I tried this year, and remember liking the "Yellow Pear" that my Uncle grew.

There are several orange tomatoes that I've enjoyed, including the "Nicoviotis Orange" that I grew in 2020. One I would recommend is "Roughwood Golden Plum", a productive orange paste tomato from William Weaver in PA. I may grow that next year, since it is due for renewal.
 

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Interesting topic, I just saw a list of tomato varieties.

 

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From that list, I have grown 2:
Earl of Edgecombe​
Kellogg’s Breakfast​
The seed for both is available at Restoration Seeds. It should be noted that the website is for an organization in New Zealand. Seed available for some of these may be a problem.

Earl of Edgecombe is a variety from New Zealand, as well. It is one of the few tomatoes that I just had a limited experience growing that I would really like to have back ripening in my kitchen. Eight or ten years ago, the garden plants produced lots of green tomatoes. By mid-September, there was probably none that could be said to be vine-ripened. Nice, meaty fruit, just a little frustrating for me to grow.

Perhaps, I should have just kept it in the more protected garden here at home but, with so little room here, the options to do so limits choices. I did have Kellogg's Breakfast here and was also able to see it growing in a neighbor's garden - for quite a few years. It is a nice big, juicy, yellow heirloom whereas the Earl of Edgecombe, except for the color, was more like a modern variety.

Steve
 

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Glad to see "Roughwood Golden Plum" on that list... which pretty much cements my decision to grow it next year. I've been dying to try making sauce from it.
 

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