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I had a very different bean in my Blooming Prairie patch this year. It seems too unlike the original to be an outcross but I don’t think it can have been a mix up because I wasn’t growing any other beans at all like it. Can outcrosses be so unlike the usual type?
Photo of possible outcross then normal Blooming Prairie.
 

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I had a very different bean in my Blooming Prairie patch this year. It seems too unlike the original to be an outcross but I don’t think it can have been a mix up because I wasn’t growing any other beans at all like it. Can outcrosses be so unlike the usual type?
Photo of possible outcross then normal Blooming Prairie.

how many plants did you grow and what were they like?

certainly they can be completely different from the parent in appearance. however with so many RL beans being similar i'd not be surprised by that bean showing up in that patch.

search for Rio Zape in this thread.

if you grow that purple bean out i will be interested to know how stable it is.
 

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Blooming Prairie, the purple bean, is usually stable as far as I know.

I grew about 12 plants and the rest were all true to type, ie. purple.

I’ll look for Rio Zape, as you suggest. Thanks.
 

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Blooming Prairie, the purple bean, is usually stable as far as I know.

I grew about 12 plants and the rest were all true to type, ie. purple.

I’ll look for Rio Zape, as you suggest. Thanks.

here is the link to the post with the picture i was thinking of:


so far i have found Purple Dove to be very stable (i've grown several thousand plants by now and no signs of any out crosses yet no matter how much i want them to show up :) ). it may take several years before i get enough out crosses mixing in my Purple Dove beans to where they will start showing up, especially if the main traits of the beans are dominant.
 

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Way back on Bean Show day 1 you showed this Algarrobo bean. I was sent a bean labelled as Algarrobo which I’ve since seen called Algarrobo rote form. I’m wondering what the connection, apart from name, can be. They are totally different in appearance.

I don't have any idea what or if there is any connection with the name of your bean or mine for that matter with their source. I got mine from a lady in Colorado who grew the bean I got and told me they are a Columbian bean.
 

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I had a very different bean in my Blooming Prairie patch this year. It seems too unlike the original to be an outcross but I don’t think it can have been a mix up because I wasn’t growing any other beans at all like it. Can outcrosses be so unlike the usual type?
Photo of possible outcross then normal Blooming Prairie.

Has to be an outcross. New things show up from time to time. Oh it's very pretty though. You gotta grow that one out and see what it gives you. I would hope that it would stay that way.
 

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here is the link to the post with the picture i was thinking of:
Thanks. Yes, interesting, and an interesting discussion following from it.

I think there is more relationship between the original and the outcross in that example though. I can’t see any of the Blooming Prairie parentage in my outcross, except perhaps size and shape of bean. The purple colouring seems nowhere to be seen.
 

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Has to be an outcross. New things show up from time to time. Oh it's very pretty though. You gotta grow that one out and see what it gives you. I would hope that it would stay that way.
Yes, I think it’s pretty too. I’ll definitely give it a go this year and see what comes of it. It’s my first outcross!
 

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Soldier - Bush Dry. I've known this bean as Soldier perhaps should be called Pink Soldier. Bought if from someone on Ebay in 2011. I've grown this one six times since then. Always does well each season
Yes, interesting the variation of colouring in beans named Soldier. A quick google comes up with black markings and brown markings as well as your redder markings.
My form of Soldier came from the Heritage Seed Library here in UK and the makings are interestingly blotchy. Photos could have been upended more.
 

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Czechoslovakian, pole snap - another bean from SSE's Heritage Farm. Romano type, purple-podded, flattened 5-6" pods... I thought I had a photo of the pods, but can't find it in my archives. This has been a consistently heavy seed producer regardless of conditions, with very few culls. Like Champagne, it has demonstrated the ability to set pods in the heat, when most of my other beans languish. The plants were weed-choked until the end of July, but still produced over a pound of dry seed. It would probably be on my short list of survival beans.
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Interesting. Another naming mystery. Heritage Seed Library in UK has an entirely different bean named Czechoslovakian which I grew this year. It was also prolific but not Romano type.
 

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