2022 Little Easy Bean Network - We Are Beans Without Borders

[BeanWonderin]

Check your grow out and see if there are any true bush plants growing among them.

It looks like Cappuccino Nano just has leggy growth on one plant so far - not sure this is even a runner.

The Brown Rice have 6 plants with runners and 4 without. The plants without runners are smaller so we will watch to see if they stay that way. The Striped Bunch are full of runners but, as you said, that should be ok.

 

[Blue-Jay]

In my grow out this year @Bluejay77 nearly every single plant grew true to type, with 2 exceptions. And they aren't bush beans that are climbing, but rather a pole and a semi that aren't climbing. Pale Gray Lavender and MB both grew similarly, as bushes though it seemed one branch in each plant was a bit longer than the rest, but not by much. I'd still call them bushes. However, the seeds seem true to type on both. PGL and MB had a full pod set and no more flowers by the time the poles started to flower. Other than these, each growth type was isolated with its own kind and they all lived happily homogenous.

Did I type "Bush" on the packet for Mpumalanga Boontjies? I should have used my new label file when I sent you beans this past spring. The bean is listed on the website as semi runner. This past winter when I was in Florida I took one of my computers with me and worked on a packet label project. I have files now where every bean you can find on my website has a correct label on a file that I can simple copy and paste into a fresh blank document when I'm printing labels for your order or request. I also have a file of larger labels for the seed return packets where all the information should be 100% correct.

Previously I would retype everything for every single label over and over each time I did another persons order or seed request and mistakes were made too often.

I even have a file of labels for every bean when it goes into freezer storage that I can copy from a file and paste into a new document then print out when I get a full page filled with labels.

These label files took 5 days a week all winter to do while I remained at a freinds place in Kissimmee, Fl while he was at work. I was at his place from about December 27 to March 15th. Finished the label project when I got home in March for about two days.

I had to look up the label for Mpumalanga Boontjies after reading your post just to check the label on file and it is correctly done as Semi Runner - Dry.

 

[Blue-Jay]

It looks like Cappuccino Nano just has leggy growth on one plant so far - not sure this is even a runner.

The Brown Rice have 6 plants with runners and 4 without. The plants without runners are smaller so we will watch to see if they stay that way. The Striped Bunch are full of runners but, as you said, that should be ok.

I'm not even sure if Cappaccino Nano is even a stable bean. I got it in trade with a fellow from Italy and I think he gave me some of his orignal outcrosses. Which I don't care but it would be nice if he would have grown them enough that they don't segregate much anymore.

Have you tried to remove any of the semi runners around the true bush Brown Rice beans. How long have they been in bloom?

 

[Ridgerunner]

Lol, sometimes I forget there are collectors here who like precision! What I actually meant was "these are beans I collected from a Karachaganack bean I planted". 🤣 I had mentioned that it didn't come true in a post a bit ago, that it was black not the original colouring, and the picture was just a follow up to that.

I had some variations in growth habit of Karachaganak when I was growing it, occasionally I'd get a bush when it was supposed to be a climbing bean. I wasn't always sure if it was a semi or half runner either. But the color and pattern always held true with one exception. On one of the bush versions I planted the pattern held true but the dark part of the pattern was black. Not the whole thing like yours, just the pattern. I did not get a grow-out and was not sure if it was actually a segregation or just the growing season.

 

[Blue-Jay]

@Ridgerunner,

Are you still trying to stablize all those Will Bonsall beans that you had grown for the first time in 2016?

 

[meadow]

@Bluejay77 In your Network bean pages, you have "White Horticultural." I saw this name as another name for Lazy Wife's Pole Bean in one of the old seed catalogs I was looking at the other day, probably Burpee's. Not shown in every listing, only once or twice. I didn't note which year(s).

ETA: Actually, scratch that. I'm having trouble with short term memory and I didn't take notes. All I can really say is that White Horticultural was in the early seed catalog.

 

[Triffid]

@Bluejay77 Thanks Russ, I remember now. I was browsing old threads a while ago and must have seen the Black Turkey outcross. It's pretty!

 

[Artorius]

As they mature, the Bubblegum pods have more and more pink color, but it's not the same as @Tricia77 once showed.

 

[Ridgerunner]

@Ridgerunner,

Are you still trying to stablize all those Will Bonsall beans that you had grown for the first time in 2016?

My plans with them are to organize what I have and offer them to you. I lost most of my notes and records in a computer crash, did not have sufficient backup. And I recently moved so I'm getting settled plus we are having trouble selling the old house. And I'm being kind of lazy right now.

At some point I plan to organize a show on here of what I have, giving you first choice if you want them. I should be able to trace the heritage of them, just lost some growing habit, pod and flower color history, stuff like that. Some will be black or white, I grew some of those but favored the ones with pattern or color. I think there are some really nice ones in there. If I grew them and they segregated I got rid to those and worked with the segregations or the ones that grew out like the originals.

I'll also include the ones I have from the segregations I found in Blue Jay. Again, some black or white but a few I really like. To a large extent it's just me needing to get my butt in gear and get organized. It's not been my top priority.

 

[Artorius]

I've moved and no longer grow beans, no room. I would very much like to see you stabilize the bush version. Feel free to name it whatever you wish once you stabilize it. You are the one doing the work.

@Ridgerunner, no way, the name Karachaganak will stay. Maybe I will only add PL

Two years ago I sowed the Karachaganak seeds I got from Russ. Several of them grew as a true bush. Last year I sowed the seeds that I harvested from them and they repeated the kind of growth. This year, Russ sowed the seeds that I sent him and, as he wrote, they grew again as a true bush. Is this bean already stable?
In my opinion, the seeds of the bush version are smaller and rounder than the half-runner. The color pattern is the same.