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[oxbow farm]

An interesting post. I’m intrigued by these varieties with Lima in the name. There’s a discussion in Beans of New York to the effect that some growers had previously thought that a cross between P. vulgaris and P. lunatus had produced such Lima lookalikes but that at the time of writing this was no longer thought to be the case. I hadn’t realised that there are vulgaris varieties with Lima in the name. I’m assuming that those you mention are vulgaris varieties?

It will be interesting to see whether Golden Lima does in fact turn out to be similar in all its parts to Dolloff. Do you value Dolloff mainly as a shelled bean? And is Horticultural Lima a specific variety which is still available?

I use Dolloff as a dry bean, but it is supposedly very good as a shelly. I've never in my life cooked shelly beans, which is probably something I should do.

As far as I know Horticultural Lima is not available as a specific named variety anymore. It does seem possible that either Golden Lima or Dolloff (or both) might be Horticultural Lima with a different name. Beans get renamed a lot. And Horticultural Lima was a bean originally from Vermont, as was Dolloff. Pretty difficult to know for sure.

 

[flowerbug]

I use Dolloff as a dry bean, but it is supposedly very good as a shelly. I've never in my life cooked shelly beans, which is probably something I should do.

yes 100 times. they do cook faster since they are still wet... if you have a bean that falls out of the shell rather easy that helps a great deal too.

As far as I know Horticultural Lima is not available as a specific named variety anymore. It does seem possible that either Golden Lima or Dolloff (or both) might be Horticultural Lima with a different name. Beans get renamed a lot. And Horticultural Lima was a bean originally from Vermont, as was Dolloff. Pretty difficult to know for sure.

always a challenge without some genetic analysis.

 

[P Suckling]

Roottrainers have been available in UK for years. They’re not very cheap but I guess affordable. They’re a great design in most ways but the snag is that they’re quite thin plastic and for the money don’t last long. I ended up with piles of half roottrainers because the hinges broke, so I eventually went over to more substantial deep trays of 40 modules which last for ever.

Of course, the Canadian version might be more robust but if they’re made by the same company, just be prepared for them to collapse after a few uses - or be extra careful.

 

[P Suckling]

These may be the more useful purchase, if they can be found outside of the UK. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Containerw...hvtargid=pla-2281435177098&psc=1&gad_source=1

 

[Branching Out]

After two weeks in the root trainers several types of pole beans were large enough to plant out. Pretty amazing 4" long roots, with lots of branching. I often use a slender rectangular trowel, and it happened to be the perfect size for transferring the plugs to the ground.

 

[Vanalpaca]

After two weeks in the root trainers several types of pole beans were large enough to plant out. Pretty amazing 4" long roots, with lots of branching. I often use a slender rectangular trowel, and it happened to be the perfect size for transferring the plugs to the ground.

Too bad they are expensive and availability is scarce...

 

[oxbow farm]

I haven't personally used these, but many veg farmers in the Northeast US are switching to them seems like. I've always used tobacco float trays for my seedlings.

These don't have the same volume of the roottrainers though.

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[BeanieQueen]

After two weeks in the root trainers several types of pole beans were large enough to plant out. Pretty amazing 4" long roots, with lots of branching. I often use a slender rectangular trowel, and it happened to be the perfect size for transferring the plugs to the ground.

Interesting. Does it have an advantage for the seedlings, when their little roots are so strictly led downwards?

 

[oxbow farm]

Found a weirdo. These are probably lucky.

 

[Decoy1]

I haven't personally used these, but many veg farmers in the Northeast US are switching to them seems like. I've always used tobacco float trays for my seedlings.

These don't have the same volume of the roottrainers though.

Mini Wini Large-cell Tray - Fedco Seeds

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Interesting, but they seem to have a lot of wasted space - or am I misunderstanding something?
And having looked up tobacco float trays, I’m interested to know whether you actually float them in water when raising your seedlings.