Chicken math isn't supposed to work this way!!!!!

see I am also on BYC we had huge discussions in our Washington group about Mareks
and will or won't if you have one vaccinated it will kill yours that are not
 
Most of us do not Vaccinate here and will not go near one that has been
the disease is not that prevalent but you go back to anything that has not been vaccinated
you spread it back most of us do not or accept one that has been
 
PennyJo said:
Most of us do not Vaccinate here and will not go near one that has been
the disease is not that prevalent but you go back to anything that has not been vaccinated
you spread it back most of us do not or accept one that has been
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I had heard it was not prevalent in wv. From what I'm reading, it says even vaccinated birds will still carry it and of those not, many won't show symptoms. If I've had it all along in my flock, I've had no symptoms. Only other birds of mine that had anything appearing similar were all meat birds, CX, and only one or two per batch. But of course you expect occasional leg problems in those, so I never thought anything of it.
 
Whether or not Marek's is prevalent is something like your company laying off 10% of its employees. it's not 10%. If it is not you, it is 0%. If it is you, it is 100%. Not a whole lot of middle ground.

I don't know that it is Marek's, an autopsy is the way to find out. If you find a tumor on that leg you have a real strong clue. Resistance to Marek's can be genetic, but other crippling problems can also be genetic. It seems a real strong coincidence if three of them were injured similarly. Like you, I'd really doubt that.

When they vaccinate chicks for Marek's they use Turkey Marek's virus. The Turkey Marek's virus does not stop them from catching chicken Marek's, it does stop the tumors from growing and causing the problems if they happen to catch Marek's. Since it is not a chicken virus, it does not give them Marek's or make them a carrier. Whether you vaccinate them or not does not affect whether they are a carrier, they just won't show symptoms if they catch it. if one of your chickens has Marek's, they all do and all are a carrier.
 
I am going to step back as I am not wanting to re visit this quandary
I have enjoyed my time here immensely.
 
Not a great picture I know, but I had a broody hatch out a few days back. She hatched 7 out of 11 eggs. I have not had good hatch rates all year. I blame my rooster mostly, he is too much of a gentleman. If he dances and the hen runs away, he quits. My fertility rate has not been great, but I'll have a different rooster next season. These are the last I'll hatch this year. These seven give me a total of 46 chicks this year. That's enough.
hen and chicks.JPG
 
The babies were out today for the first time without their mamma. Spouse opened the garden shed door today. It is very touchy and must be closed in a special way to keep it from blowing open. Spouse DID NOT use that special closure.

After being so careful to keep the two flocks separated, all was undone today. I don't know what happened, but the roosters must not have met because neither were hurt, and the small flock were back in the garden shed by the time we came home from supper.

Only the babies were still frolicking in the field, enjoying their freedom. Must mean mom is ready to let them go and they are ready to test the world. I need to post another photo of the growing youngsters. They turned out to be a rather nice assortment of chickens.
 
Well because I kept my blue boy f1-olive boy I was talked into selling fertile eggs and chicks
ordered a incubator and candle light but everyone said it is tough to candle an olive egg?
 
byc told me they just stick them in and hope :fl with
because they are so tough to candle
 
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