Fall wildflowers - what are these?

I'll need to go down there today & take a picture of the leaves. I'm leaning towards a wild rose because of the way it's growing. It's really bushy and "rambling," which seems more like a rose than an anemone. It also looks like there's a second one growing in the brush across the pond. :)
 
If it is a wild rose, I would advise against bringing any to your flower beds. I have found it to be pretty invasive. Make that very invasive.
 
It's in a position where I would risk life & limb - or at least falling into the pond - to try to dig it up, so I'm just going to appreciate it where it is. :D
 
OK, I've got some new ones:

I'm pretty sure this is aster:
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But not so sure about these:
#1
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#2
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