Garlic Troubles

HunkieDorie23

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I have decided that I can not grow Martins Heirlooms garlic. This is the second year and it still didn't grow. My garden seems to love Metechi, Inchelium Red and Northern White. Everything else is marginal at best. I may just go with them next year and not waste the time and space.
 

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Wouldn't you harvest garlic in the fall? Mine is just peeking out of the ground....
 

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lesa said:
Wouldn't you harvest garlic in the fall? Mine is just peeking out of the ground....
Mine is several inches high. I tried the Martin's heirloom because it is supposed to be a nice size garlic and it is getting rare. I think it is getting rare because it is harder to grow. My soil has a lot of clay but their are types that do very well. Even the bulbils I planted last fall are up and looking ok but not the Martin variety.
 

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Martins heirloom is a hardneck variety. Perhaps your soil and climate is more suitable for a softneck garlic.
 

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hoodat said:
Martins heirloom is a hardneck variety. Perhaps your soil and climate is more suitable for a softneck garlic.
Well, I live in Ohio where hardnecks are grown, and the Metechi and Northern White (hardnecks) do very well. There were actually a very nice size. The Inchelium Red is a soft neck and it turned out adequate. None were large but I had enough to make a braid which is still hanging in the kitchen, but they were actually small in comparison. Maybe it is the type of hardneck. I'll look it up, I hadn't considered that.
 

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Ok, Hoodat is a genius! It is the type of Hardneck, Martins Heirloom not growing, Amish Racambole and Spanish Rojo growing very poorly in my garden second year in a row are all Racambole. Metechi is a marble striped purple and Northern white is a porcelain. That much be it, I remember that after your mentioned hardnecks because I let several of my scapes develop to get bulbils last year and the Metechi and Northern White have smaller types of bulbils unlike the racambole which have large bulbils. My soil must not be suited for the rocamboles. I will just grow the other types.
 

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I wonder what it is about your soil not being suited for rocamboles... ph?
 

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marshallsmyth said:
I wonder what it is about your soil not being suited for rocamboles... ph?
It's more likely to be a combination of daytime length and soil temps. Like onions, garlics time their stem production to the length of the day moreso than maturity. Once the stem starts growing the bulb development stops as the plant puts all its' energy into forming the bulbils so if it comes before full development of the bulb you get small garlic. Clipping the stem as soon as it shows keeps the plant from putting all it's energy into reproduction and may help get bigger bulbs.
The garlics that do the best for me are the varieties grown around Gilroy. They time their stems to about the longest day of the year so if I plant them in the Fall they have all winter and some of the spring and summer to grow in my climate before the stems grow out.
 

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Now it begins to make sense!!! Thank you Hoodat! Who'dat? Where did you find that out? Now Rocambole Garlics don't sound impossible!

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