Gone to the Dogs

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Maybe you would agree with this video. (We could use some help from @Nyboy :rainbowflower)

https://alwayspets.com/s/least-obedient-dog-breeds-in-the-world

I once lived in a neighborhood with both a Chow Chow and an Akita at separate homes. I can testify that they were a problem for the neighbors and each other.
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Nancy ran off while we were playing ball in the park yesterday. After she heard a dog bark she bolted. It's deeply worrying.
 

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Yes, a lot of people are getting dogs right now based on the look the dog has, or maybe a childhood dream of a dog they liked, not realizing the behavioral disposition that goes with it and how serious that can get. You need skills to deal with that. Heartbreaking because these people sometimes have to, in the end, euthanize their pet. I think its so great that you entered the livestock guardian breed so wisely, I wish everybody did that.

Someone on my block got an Anatolian and boy that has not worked out. I have seen a few Anatolians around that are totally stable, calm, can walk on a leash with their family and not be in a state of constant scan or alert. But this one house, that dog is up on the couch, looking out the window, trying to get rid of anything he sees on the street endlessly. He is occasionally tied outside and my daughter and I actually stopped walking that part of the neighborhood because the last time we passed, he really wanted to take us down and I didn't trust that rope he was on to hold him. He is deadly serious and he's attached to a crappy wooden step. He needs to do the job he was bred to do, and his particular lines are clashing with being a living room dog. I haven't been on that street in a few years now and I wouldn't be surprised if he's been put down.

In hindsight, I'm glad that I chose a relatively easy breed! lol I know my limits and even my personality; while I have a certain fondness for Rottweilers I'll never get one. I love the regal nobility of them, the courage, but they generally take dominance very seriously. I'd have to live in a very specific way with a dog like that to keep him in check and not give him funny ideas about his place in the hierarchy. I can't count how many people I've met that have been bitten by their own well loved Rottie, with no warning.
Rottweilers are beautiful dogs. I've met some lovely natured Rottweilers. But deadly if not trained well
 

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Nancy ran off while we were playing ball in the park yesterday. After she heard a dog bark she bolted. It's deeply worrying.
@Marie2020 Because my dog's recall at this point is still only about 80% I use a precautionary nylon or polypropylene rope. I cut it to about 15 feet, that woven plastic rope from a dollar store, and I just let it drag on the ground. It allows him to be free and play and roam free with me, but if he makes a bad choice at any point I can immediately step on that rope and stop him. He doesn't even register that he's attached to it. Works great and gives you some peace of mind. ☮️
 

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@Marie2020 Because my dog's recall at this point is still only about 80% I use a precautionary nylon or polypropylene rope. I cut it to about 15 feet, that woven plastic rope from a dollar store, and I just let it drag on the ground. It allows him to be free and play and roam free with me, but if he makes a bad choice at any point I can immediately step on that rope and stop him. He doesn't even register that he's attached to it. Works great and gives you some peace of mind. ☮️
I have an extension lead. But like to give her freedom. That rope seems like a good idea 😉 ,thank you :D
 

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DD & I walked the dog together this afternoon. We were going down the street in the direction of the sun, and I could see someone else coming up the street toward us with a large dog on a leash. So we moved far to the right to give them room and I caught a glimpse of their silhouette, (I was blinded by the sun a bit), and thought wow the dog looks like a senior. My dog started to act up, which was very odd. He's trained. He knows not to bark unless someone is right up on us, and we had actually been charged by a little dog not long before that, and he never even paid attention to him.

My dog seemed seriously freaked out about this approaching dog. I was astonished when they got closer as I had seen them before several times, a man with a very well behaved Doberman, truly superb obedience, an athlete. She seemed young to me. My dog was getting more riled as they got closer and he really wanted to let loose a full throttle intimidation routine on her, so DD and I ducked behind a building to build some distance and block his view. We were utterly bewildered as this is so out of character for him. When we came out on the other end the man had walked past the building and I noticed the dog was now standing still. He was petting her in a way that made me feel deeply uncomfortable. It all seemed to happen so fast that I couldn't process it, and we had to keep our own dog moving forward because he was so agitated. He never made a peep, because my daughters timing for corrections on a flat buckle collar is excellent, but it was darn close.

The distance between us was building and I looked back again and now the dog was laying in the snow, the way a dog would do in a dog bed. A terrible feeling came over me. We circled the small block and when we got to the car I drove straight away to where the man was. I don't know what I thought I could do, I don't have a cell and I couldn't get his dog in my car since my own dog seemed so cross toward her. But I went anyway feeling urgency. When we pulled up I saw that another man had come already. The back hatch was open and it looked like they had laid her body in there. I saw them close the hatch and they both stood there, the owner started to dial the phone. I honestly felt gutted by the whole thing. When I saw her laying in the snow my inner alarms all started yelling. I can only guess that my dog was well aware of what was about to happen. I've read about how dogs will register another dog with illness as a threat, but never seen it in action. Terrible experience!

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DD & I walked the dog together this afternoon. We were going down the street in the direction of the sun, and I could see someone else coming up the street toward us with a large dog on a leash. So we moved far to the right to give them room and I caught a glimpse of their silhouette, (I was blinded by the sun a bit), and thought wow the dog looks like a senior. My dog started to act up, which was very odd. He's trained. He knows not to bark unless someone is right up on us, and we had actually been charged by a little dog not long before that, and he never even paid attention to him.

My dog seemed seriously freaked out about this approaching dog. I was astonished when they got closer as I had seen them before several times, a man with a very well behaved Doberman, truly superb obedience, an athlete. She seemed young to me. My dog was getting more riled as they got closer and he really wanted to let loose a full throttle intimidation routine on her, so DD and I ducked behind a building to build some distance and block his view. We were utterly bewildered as this is so out of character for him. When we came out on the other end the man had walked past the building and I noticed the dog was now standing still. He was petting her in a way that made me feel deeply uncomfortable. It all seemed to happen so fast that I couldn't process it, and we had to keep our own dog moving forward because he was so agitated. He never made a peep, because my daughters timing for corrections on a flat buckle collar is excellent, but it was darn close.

The distance between us was building and I looked back again and now the dog was laying in the snow, the way a dog would do in a dog bed. A terrible feeling came over me. We circled the small block and when we got to the car I drove straight away to where the man was. I don't know what I thought I could do, I don't have a cell and I couldn't get his dog in my car since my own dog seemed so cross toward her. But I went anyway feeling urgency. When we pulled up I saw that another man had come already. The back hatch was open and it looked like they had laid her body in there. I saw them close the hatch and they both stood there, the owner started to dial the phone. I honestly felt gutted by the whole thing. When I saw her laying in the snow my inner alarms all started yelling. I can only guess that my dog was well aware of what was about to happen. I've read about how dogs will register another dog with illness as a threat, but never seen it in action. Terrible experience!

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OH MY! Horrible! Makes me feel nausea and anger at the same time.
 
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