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Discussion in 'Everything Else Garden' started by Gardening with Rabbits, Feb 6, 2019.

  1. Feb 11, 2019
    valley ranch

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    they're missing a lot of information there and pushing a product...

    if you want your garden plants/veggies to have reasonable nutrition values if you encourage the soil community and those trace nutrients are there then the plants will have them and be just fine nutritionally. the problem is that with many trace nutrients too much can also be bad... (most metals to point out a few).

    note that the author says nothing about the soil community and how it works to free minerals from the substrates and how they can trade with the plants (plants give carbohydrates and other goodies in return to both bacteria and fungi). there is plenty of phosphate available in almost all modern farmed soils and the plants will get enough if you don't destroy the soil community.
     
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    bobm

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    The author never mentions that the commercial farmers are in business to make a profit. To make that profit, they have to produce an abundant and nutritous crop that sells for a price that is above and beyond production and carrying costs. To do this, they do periodic soil tests and based on the results, they add any and all amendments that are needed to produce the crops that are to be produced on the land, or the farmer will be out of business in short order. Basic farming practices 1a. and basic Econ . 1a.
     
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    Wood, Wood do you see validity in the absents of Wood Ash in our soil today ~ That European Countries bought Wood Ash from use ```
     
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    i'm not sure i understand the question? do you mean that wood ash is somehow magically different than non-burned materials? no it is not. it may be remineralized or transformed by heat, but it is made of the same elements that are present in dirt of different kinds that was eroded from the rock of our planet.. so no, i don't think it is "special" (i'm going to footnote this though[*]).

    we have wood ashes available to us to use and i will use some in gardens, but i would much prefer to have actual organic materials instead (leaves, hay, straw, pieces of bark, old rotting wood, even newly cut green wood). it's all going to have the stuff of life going for it much more than a burned amount of the same (all that energy going up in smoke/heat which could be used instead by the soil's creatures and then to the plants).

    [*] if you study the formation of life on this planet you'll see that life has transformed it even down to the rocks that are formed and eroded. these are the kinds of issues that have to be figured out when it comes down to issues like how are we ever going to survive in space or be around long enough to actuallt terraform a planet if we're starting from scratch. eek. it's a long and complicated subject, but well worth pondering on a mid-winter evening...
     
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    flowerbug ~ I mean the minerals in the wood ash ~ that have been enriching soils are now missing and can be put back into the soil ```
    I mean that we/humans are missing these and are healthier with than without
    I mean that these trace minerals remain in the ash when wood is burned ```
    I mean I believe this to contain truth ```

    I'm not a missionary ~ I don't care what you do ~ if you see no truth in this ~ great ~ it's been real ```
     
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    they are in both places in wood and in wood ash IMO.
     
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    Does a bear poop in the woods ?
     

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