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Couldn't make out a single thing he was saying.

Wasn't it kind of cold there to be outside?
 

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The most recent story is about protestors toppling a statue of Lenin - in this effort to pull away from Moscow and aline with the EU. http://gu.com/p/3y368

A bigger story may be their occupation of the Kiev City Hall and what that might mean if the police try to push them out.

I guess we will see if that happen on Tuesday (as the police demand) and if there is violence.

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Lenin's life was quite the deal. When he was young his older brother was executed for sedition against the czar, his father imprisoned. From there he had a series of radical ideas and made groups with plans to overthrow the czar, did some college, created pamphlets. Kept going to prison, getting exiled, and things like that became like a badge to him.

In the end, his brand of no compromise Bolshevism won out though there were more moderate groups of it.

After he became dictator he survived several attempts on his life but the last one really weakened and hurt him. As he grew old and weak he also got a series of strokes.

While he was sick and barely able to talk, he did write a memo telling the others NOT to let Stalin have any more power and that Stalin should be removed from all offices of any power. Stalin got hold of the memo and ensured the politburo did not receive it. Then when Lenin died Stalin made out as though Lenin wanted Stalin to succeed him.

Lenin was really a revenge seeker, but then enjoyed the power he got. He really was a hard working leader, no doubt about that, but he indeed did screw up Karl Marx' ideas about what Communism should be, claiming that communism was a step by step process. But he had no real plan for it, and instead, did the PRECISE opposite of what Marx had defined as communism. Lenin (nearly) entirely monopolized capitalism by making the state the monopolizing owner of nearly all enterprise.

Marx defined that condition as the epitome and goal of capitalism.

Thus, Lenin was one of the greatest DECEIVERS of all time.

And, Stalin followed in those deceptions in his own POWER GRUBBING way.

...which included massive murders and killings, even worldwide, as TROTSKY found out while trying to hide in Mexico. Lenin more wanted Trotsky to follow him. But, history had the way it happened. To try and think how things would have gone if Trotsky succeeded Lenin, well, it does involve the possibility that WWII would have ended far differently than it did. Trotsky was much more intelligent than Stalin, and quite surprisingly strong, but did not have as strong a desire for power as Stalin.

Quite the story there, and this is only the thinnest of outline of it!
 

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Wow, so many people gathered there.

And my acrophobia is cringing right now! :barnie
 

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In Thailand, the Prime Minister has dissolved parliament.

New elections may calm protests there.

The members of one political party had already decided not to attend the legislative sessions and instead, meet with protestors in the streets! Seems to be a claim that corruption was gaining the upper hand in the government. Money buying power. Maybe the Thai citizens can sort it out with an election.

Steve
 

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Whoa!

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The current president is supposed to be in talks with 3 earlier presidents about how to get out of this. I really hope this works. There has been some speculation that Russian military may come in if things really descend to violence. That person was saying that there is no way Russia would succeed at getting things in control and that it may be especially bad for Russia at home if Putin's government interferes in Ukraine.

History in the making . . ?

Meanwhile, protests continue in Thailand.

Steve
 

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