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I'm a little confused as to why they are using cultures of the leaf cells, given that coffee is made from the seeds. But maybe there are trace amounts of all of the coffee phenols and caffeine in the leaves as well.

Actually, coffee can be grown successfully as a houseplant, from what I have heard.
 

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I'm a little confused as to why they are using cultures of the leaf cells, given that coffee is made from the seeds. But maybe there are trace amounts of all of the coffee phenols and caffeine in the leaves as well.

Actually, coffee can be grown successfully as a houseplant, from what I have heard.

considering you can get pretty close tastes from roasted roots and parts of other plants this shouldn't be such a huge reach. to me the point is the flavors so anything which comes close enough is good enough for me. if it reduces the negative impacts on the environment i'm all for it (and also reduces child labor exploitation).

since this is not a question of nutrition i do not have too many fears about trace nutrients being lost and since they are not messing with the genetics i'm also not worried about inadvertent allergans being created.

four years they say. good luck - i'm sure if this actually happens we'll be hearing about it a lot more.
 
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@Artichoke Lover , I felt that I was living in a science fiction world in the 1960's :)!

"coffee making is an art and involves iterative optimization under the supervision of specialists with dedicated equipment. Our work marks the basis for such work."

Ah, Ha. There's my dodge on roasting those dandelion roots and having something drinkable! 🤷‍♂️ "Others are so very skilled and with superior equipment, I'm sure that they would have done better with the product than little olde me."

Steve :D
 

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@Artichoke Lover , I felt that I was living in a science fiction world in the 1960's :)!

"coffee making is an art and involves iterative optimization under the supervision of specialists with dedicated equipment. Our work marks the basis for such work."

Ah, Ha. There's my dodge on roasting those dandelion roots and having something drinkable! 🤷‍♂️ "Others are so very skilled and with superior equipment, I'm sure that they would have done better with the product than little olde me."

Steve :D
Reminds me of something that just happened. When I went to one of the markets on Wednesday, they had actual cacao pod available for sale, and I bought two. THEN I looked up how to turn the beans into chocolate, and quickly realized just how complicated it is! It also involves things I don't have easy access to, like fresh banana leaves and custom made boxes. So the seeds of the one I opened for the pulp (which doesn't taste nearly as good as it did in the drinks I used to drink with it in it) are just sitting in a cup (thought maybe they are fermenting on their own, the stuff smells a little like chocolate now.)
 

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Reminds me of something that just happened. When I went to one of the markets on Wednesday, they had actual cacao pod available for sale, and I bought two. THEN I looked up how to turn the beans into chocolate, and quickly realized just how complicated it is! It also involves things I don't have easy access to, like fresh banana leaves and custom made boxes. So the seeds of the one I opened for the pulp (which doesn't taste nearly as good as it did in the drinks I used to drink with it in it) are just sitting in a cup (thought maybe they are fermenting on their own, the stuff smells a little like chocolate now.)

i'd love to have one just once to experience it. yes, it's a long process, fermenting for several days first, then drying, then getting rid of the seed coat, then...
 

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No too difficult then 🤔

home production of rough textured flavoring like chocolate might be possible, but getting the really smooth texture will likely be incredibly difficult short of technologies i know nothing about. :) in other words, not happening here... when you consider the shipping costs of the large pods v.s just shipping the finished nibs it just isn't a good idea. plus much better to recycle the pods/gunk/etc. as close to where grown as possible. just common sense. don't move what you don't have to. :)
 

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My thinking from here in the lazyboy, @flowerbug .

Don't move if you don't have to.

I did go to buy some Japanese persimmons, tho! Back before any serious lunch hunger discomfort set in. They're ripe persimmons!

Oh well, time to get some exercise with the Indoor Mile. Better do it before I decompose into a nap.

Steve
 

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