a rumor going round ```

[digitS']

@ninnymary

It doesn't look like I got "far" enuf into the story. The meteorologists are even saying that the recent Sacramento storm was graupel/hail and at 50°f, it couldn't have been snow.

A white blanket of frozen precipitation, anyway . videos and story:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/weather/article202174129.html

Steve

 

[valley ranch]

Almost snow ```

 

[ducks4you]

'O'

 

[valley ranch]

Snowing like it's angry ```

 

[valley ranch]

National Electrical Code 2014
Article 250 Grounding and Bonding
II. System Grounding

250.24 Grounding Service-Supplied Alternating-Current Systems.
(A) System Grounding Connections. A premises wiring system supplied by a grounded ac service shall have a grounding electrode conductor connected to the grounded service conductor, at each service, in accordance with 250.24(A)(1) through (A)(5).

(1) General. The grounding electrode conductor connection shall be made at any accessible point from the load end of the overhead service conductors, service drop, underground service conductors, or service lateral to and including the terminal or bus to which the grounded service conductor is connected at the service disconnecting means.

This means that the grounded (neutral) from the service must be connected to ground, and that the connection can be made by bonding the neutral bus bar to the grounding electrode.

(5) Load-Side Grounding Connections. A grounded conductor shall not be connected to normally non–current carrying metal parts of equipment, to equipment grounding conductor(s), or be reconnected to ground on the load side of the service disconnecting means except as otherwise permitted in this article.

This means that the grounded (neutral) conductors should only be grounded at the main service disconnnect.

If the main service panel happens to be the same place that the grounded (neutral) conductor is bonded to the grounding electrode, then there is no problem mixing grounds and neutrals on the same bus bar (as long as there is an appropriate number of conductors terminated under each lug). If the two bus bars are not connected; as would be the case anywhere other than the main disconnect (exceptions exist), then you cannot mix them.

Notice how the grounded, and grounding bus bars are connected in the main service panel. This means that; electrically speaking, they can be considered a single bus bar. Which means that both grounded (neutral), and equipment grounding conductors can be terminated on either bus bar.

In the subpanel, the bus bars are kept separate. So grounded (neutral), and equipment grounding conductors cannot be mixed.

 

[majorcatfish]

all i was saying the primary power distribution panel is cluttered, and if i was an inspector would make you clean it up and up to code...
according to nec 2017 book.... and yes i understand grounding and bonding... have been doing wiring for the last 14 years ....

have had to rewire one of the owners new building a couple years ago because some jack leg electrician did not know the proper colors to use in a 277 lighting panel...

plus for the other panels they where using the conduit as the ground<which is barely legal> found that 90%of the building was not getting a proper ground. had to pull ground wire throughout the place....

if i remember will take a photo of the distribution panel down where i am working, that will be a nightmare to fix..scarey
guess im anal about the way i do things clean and neat.....

 

[digitS']

Massive the Nor'easter

LINK to pictures from space.

"Riley" a good name for this??!

Steve

 

[buckabucka]

The massive Nor'easter didn't really come here. A little rain and some wind. It has felt like spring here for so long that people are going to be angry when/if winter ever returns!

 

[ninnymary]

@ninnymary

It doesn't look like I got "far" enuf into the story. The meteorologists are even saying that the recent Sacramento storm was graupel/hail and at 50°f, it couldn't have been snow.

A white blanket of frozen precipitation, anyway . videos and story:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/weather/article202174129.html

Steve

When I first saw the pictures I was going to say it looks like snow to me. But later on you can see that it was hail. Crazy that it blanketed everything like that.

Mary

 

[Collector]

I see parts of California got 7’ of snow and more. How you faring @valley ranch ?