Carol Dee
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Hey @majorcatfish are picking me up in IA? Sounds like fun. 
common sense is out the window
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I am pleased to see you'll be driving something inconspicuous. Wouldn't want to draw too much attention to the pair of you ... all things considered.
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I bet that can pull a small trailer.
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majorcatfish
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early last year the owner his brother and i went to look at an old tire store in conover,nc <the owner passed away a year before so it's been shut down> well holy crap it was one of my old stops way back when.....when i was a route driver for the company.
meet the son and started to talk, asked if i could inspected the building."sure" got up on the roof...rubber roof oh hell every seam was coming apart and pulling away in places from the edge in places...
inspected the electrical panel omg that was one of the scariest things i have ever seen..
well on the way back give my 2 cents worth on the property...basicly you can do better than this rundown build it's going to cost a mint to get up to your standard.
2 weeks later was informed that he brought it and that i better be ready to go up there for awhile to renovate it....
""dan you're wasting you money""
"lloyd you don't know what your talking about i got it for a song"
so over the next 6 months on and off went up there with my helper and gutted the place, cleaned up the old tire yard we finally got looking really good only took 5 30yd dumpsters...
now this is where the common sense went out the window
.. after getting all cleaned up he had us do the following.
move walls
repaired the rubber roof
remove all the sheetrock
rewire the walls so there was more receptacles ....more on that later
have the i.t. person come out and wire the place for phone and data
had broadband installed
install alarm system
have one of his friends sons come out and install tile on the floor and put up $26.00 a sheet paneling
install a floating ceiling and insulate it
install 2" airlines around the 2 small bays with 3/4" drops every 4'
install new lighting in the bays and office areas ...ok this is where it got fun every time i started to rewire i would get shocked.. back when the build was made they used the conduit as the ground, well over the years the conduit lost its ability to ground... so had to install a grounding rod and a ground bar in the panel and run a ground wire into every conduit to every connection point...
had our plumber come out and replumb some water lines
replace all the gutters
the list goes on and on.....
my best guess with everything done 30k at this point...on top of the 92k purchase price. i mean the place was looking sharp very first class.. done everything we can do without putting a permit...well kind of...
now 3 months ago he hires a g/m to oversee the opening and the permits for the following
power upgrade to 220 3 ph 400 amp
a/c & heat
natural gas
service bay building expansion...
talked with the owner this thursday found out the county would let him proceed till he installed a sprinkler system and the city water pressure was to low and he would have to either install a water tank or a pressure system... that would cost either way 500k.
so now he has put the property on the market... and is purchasing another property that has an sprinkler system and more than adequate power and will be able to build the service bays that he wants, and the county approves.
now he has told us plan on going up and removing all the airlines that we put up and plan on renovating the new building...
on his behalf he did say "i should have listened to you", so sometime in the next couple weeks i get to see my/our next nightmare
quality inn here i come..... room 303 please......
must be nice to piss that type of money away.......
i did mention i love my job...... just a little sarcasm there ....
meet the son and started to talk, asked if i could inspected the building."sure" got up on the roof...rubber roof oh hell every seam was coming apart and pulling away in places from the edge in places...
inspected the electrical panel omg that was one of the scariest things i have ever seen..
well on the way back give my 2 cents worth on the property...basicly you can do better than this rundown build it's going to cost a mint to get up to your standard.
2 weeks later was informed that he brought it and that i better be ready to go up there for awhile to renovate it....
""dan you're wasting you money""
"lloyd you don't know what your talking about i got it for a song"
so over the next 6 months on and off went up there with my helper and gutted the place, cleaned up the old tire yard we finally got looking really good only took 5 30yd dumpsters...
now this is where the common sense went out the window
.. after getting all cleaned up he had us do the following.move walls
repaired the rubber roof
remove all the sheetrock
rewire the walls so there was more receptacles ....more on that later
have the i.t. person come out and wire the place for phone and data
had broadband installed
install alarm system
have one of his friends sons come out and install tile on the floor and put up $26.00 a sheet paneling
install a floating ceiling and insulate it
install 2" airlines around the 2 small bays with 3/4" drops every 4'
install new lighting in the bays and office areas ...ok this is where it got fun every time i started to rewire i would get shocked.. back when the build was made they used the conduit as the ground, well over the years the conduit lost its ability to ground... so had to install a grounding rod and a ground bar in the panel and run a ground wire into every conduit to every connection point...
had our plumber come out and replumb some water lines
replace all the gutters
the list goes on and on.....
my best guess with everything done 30k at this point...on top of the 92k purchase price. i mean the place was looking sharp very first class.. done everything we can do without putting a permit...well kind of...
now 3 months ago he hires a g/m to oversee the opening and the permits for the following
power upgrade to 220 3 ph 400 amp
a/c & heat
natural gas
service bay building expansion...
talked with the owner this thursday found out the county would let him proceed till he installed a sprinkler system and the city water pressure was to low and he would have to either install a water tank or a pressure system... that would cost either way 500k.
so now he has put the property on the market... and is purchasing another property that has an sprinkler system and more than adequate power and will be able to build the service bays that he wants, and the county approves.
now he has told us plan on going up and removing all the airlines that we put up and plan on renovating the new building...
on his behalf he did say "i should have listened to you", so sometime in the next couple weeks i get to see my/our next nightmare
quality inn here i come..... room 303 please......
must be nice to piss that type of money away.......
i did mention i love my job......
just a little sarcasm there ....
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Major, I wish I could say I "like", but that sounds like a terrible way to spend another few weeks away from Dew.
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Sorry there Major. I goofed. I wouldn't want to be starting any rumors that make MontyJ angry or Dew, for that matter.
I just got my "M"s mixed up and for that I am heartily sorry -- so have at it with a wet noodle.
I just got my "M"s mixed up and for that I am heartily sorry -- so have at it with a wet noodle.
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@Smart Red The "edit" feature is your friend. I seem to use itbalmostbevery post as I have auto correct on. It would rather switch a word rather then mis spell.
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Phooh! I know that. I've used the EDIT feature a heaping bunch. Just didn't think of it today. It's been really tough around here lately and I fear it's taking its toll on me.
This is NOT fun.
This is NOT easy.
This is NOT going to get easier in the foreseeable future.
I am taking things one day at a time and looking for small treasures to hold dear amid difficulties that threaten to overwhelm.
This is NOT fun.
This is NOT easy.
This is NOT going to get easier in the foreseeable future.
I am taking things one day at a time and looking for small treasures to hold dear amid difficulties that threaten to overwhelm.
Carol Dee
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We are here for you. 
digitS'
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I was once on a nonprofit's board. The management had a mind of its own - or, I should say her own.
The 3rd move brought the outfit to a building in serious need of repair. The owners were willing to pay for extensive remodeling, including removing two interior walls to combine what had been 3 businesses. In the process, the restrooms were demolished.
The manager contracted with her husband's business to rebuild the restrooms and put a new floor in. The board members just did a sharp intake of breath and hoped the owners did not question the relationship with the contractor.
The contractor doing windows volunteered to replace the ceiling in one room for free. I talked to them. Manager dismissed this free work and, you guessed it, hired her husband.
She had one friend on the board, the Veep. When he began signing checks, the attorney president, who had held the position for 7 years, quit ... but not before he had arranged for someone from the organization's accounting firm to take over as treasurer.
That lady acted like she was gonna take the bull by the horns - I don't know what the outgoing prez had told her. She was there for 2 meetings and quit.
At that point, I resigned but my letter, at least, mentioned some of what I didn't agree with ... it was probably burned ...
After failing to pay the rent, the owners told the nonprofit that they had other uses for the building. Eighteen months, that's 18 months (!), after completion of the remodel, the owners tore the building down! They replaced it in fairly short order with a new office building.
(No, I'm not finished!) The nonproft was given a building by the head of the local planning commission. The Planning Commission! He evicted after 2 years and that building sat empty for the next 5 or 6 years.
Not to worry, local government had a building. The nonprofit moved in. Lots of remodeling was done ... I don't know by whom. Three years later the nonprofit was bankrupt and closed down completely. Start to finish, all under the guidance of one manager.
Oh, did I say, the Veep was a third. That is, the second, his father, owned a downtown business. The first, was the founder and president of a bank ...
Steve
The 3rd move brought the outfit to a building in serious need of repair. The owners were willing to pay for extensive remodeling, including removing two interior walls to combine what had been 3 businesses. In the process, the restrooms were demolished.
The manager contracted with her husband's business to rebuild the restrooms and put a new floor in. The board members just did a sharp intake of breath and hoped the owners did not question the relationship with the contractor.
The contractor doing windows volunteered to replace the ceiling in one room for free. I talked to them. Manager dismissed this free work and, you guessed it, hired her husband.
She had one friend on the board, the Veep. When he began signing checks, the attorney president, who had held the position for 7 years, quit ... but not before he had arranged for someone from the organization's accounting firm to take over as treasurer.
That lady acted like she was gonna take the bull by the horns - I don't know what the outgoing prez had told her. She was there for 2 meetings and quit.
At that point, I resigned but my letter, at least, mentioned some of what I didn't agree with ... it was probably burned ...
After failing to pay the rent, the owners told the nonprofit that they had other uses for the building. Eighteen months, that's 18 months (!), after completion of the remodel, the owners tore the building down! They replaced it in fairly short order with a new office building.
(No, I'm not finished!) The nonproft was given a building by the head of the local planning commission. The Planning Commission! He evicted after 2 years and that building sat empty for the next 5 or 6 years.
Not to worry, local government had a building. The nonprofit moved in
. Lots of remodeling was done ... I don't know by whom. Three years later the nonprofit was bankrupt and closed down completely. Start to finish, all under the guidance of one manager.Oh, did I say, the Veep was a third. That is, the second, his father, owned a downtown business. The first, was the founder and president of a bank ...
Steve
