I grew 5,6,7, & 8 as part of the Will Bonsall beans Russ sent me. Cedar Creek grew as a climbing bean, Davis Creek was a bush. That doesn't mean as much as you'd think, you can still get different growth habit from them. The way I understand it climbing is the dominant trait so one that grew as a bush and did not outcross again should grow as a bush but I've had several of the climbing ones throw bush segregations.
Russ has an interesting story on Up the Valley. I can't remember the details but as I remember it some guy wanted to grow beans to help developing countries grow their own food. Please correct me where I'm wrong Russ. He tried Up the Valley and was happy with it. I have no idea if Russ got back any seeds from him.
Several of us have tried growing Karachaganak, it is pretty. The general pattern seems to hold but you can get either round or oval seeds. I've had a slightly different color, it mostly repeats but some have been more black. That might just be the differences in the soil it grows in.
@Artorius and I have had it throw a bush version. Since you are looking for beans that will likely segregate, well this one does but it's being worked on.
When I grew Tartan it segregated into four different shades of brown, some dark some light. The pattern held, just different colors for the dark part. I selected the "A" one to carry on. Since we like photos I'll show those four color differences.
The last time I grew the one I'm currently calling Tartan Tan I got these two. It's the first time I got a different pattern.
I consider all these working names since they haven't stabilized. That's a warning, don't use your good names until they stabilize, but you can use them as working names. Once you mail them or share them working names become locked in even if they haven't stabilized.
I have a few of the dark ones shown above, the Tartan C, that I do not plan to plant again. I'll be glad to mail them to you if you want. They are totally yours to name as you wish if you can stabilize them. Or name any segregations you get from them. Or if you get the original from Russ I'm pretty confident you'll get some segregations to play with.
Jas stabilized for me. That second grow out in 2020 on Russ's web page should be stabile seeds I sent him, not what you are after. I like that bean though.
Russ, correct me if I'm wrong. If Jack gets these "network" beans and they segregate he doesn't need to send them back to you until he stabilizes them. You might even prefer that he not if he intends to stabilize them.
Jack, don't get too ambitious. When I started down this path I got four different packets of beans from Russ, they produced 25 segregations. I have no idea how many segregations you'll actually get from any of these but they can really multiply.
Since you don't know what any of these beans will look like when you open the pod (or even growth habit when you plant them) I suggest planting them in a way you can't mix them up with any others. You really don't know what you are going to get. More by accident than on purpose (bush and weak climbers) I've found it good to even know which specific plant they came off of during harvest. That can help you identify segregations. Keep good records and take lots of photos.
This can be frustrating and aggravating but there is a certain excitement when you open the first pod off of each individual plant. Hope you enjoy it.
I'm sure it would work well during the summer months though.
I did place an order with them, for some other seeds. Almost all of their beans are "unavailable."
