No way!! I raised Satins and had black, chinchilla, white, red and Siamese Satins AND I was at the ARBA show at the Shamrock Hilton in Houston in 1977 too!! Rabbit people were the nicest people. I housed a woman and her son from El Paso that raised Angora, because they couldn't afford the hotel. I had never met them before, didn't know them, and we had a great time. I lived in Baytown at the time and the local rabbit club I belonged to was very involved in setting up the show. Small world.Here I go off topic again. @baymule you used to raise show rabbits? So did we back in the 70's and 80's , actually attended an ARBA convention at the Shamrock Hilton in Huston back in the 70's, in 77 if I remember correctly . I take it you raised commercial breeds, we did a few but then turned to the fancies. I raised Netherland Dwarfs and Holland Lops, DH, Belgian Hares and Tans . Over the years we raised Satins, Champagnes, Californians and New Zealand Whites. Friends of ours were the ones instrumental in getting Britannia Petites recognized as a new breed by the ARBA. What breeds did you raise?