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Well, I'm unsophisticated.

Mom was willing to try most anything so I had learned to be adventurous when I moved to the California coast and found myself surrounded by Italian American dairies. I had never seen so many different types of cheese!

I never saw anything like that again ... you know, there are places in the world and entire populations where animal milk used as a food isnt common.

I really have no idea if Humboldt County still has a selection of cheese like that. The folks in the Bay Area must have some advantages but I doubt that I will be melting imported cheese on my broccoli ...

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That's right!

Wikipedia says 1983 and I had been gone from Arcata for over 15 years by then, @Pulsegleaner .

A friend's family had a dairy and we would meet him in the barnyard, him in his rubber boots. I felt so at home :).

He should have gone to law school but never left police work. Nice, quiet guy ...

Steve
 

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Those claims was taken out of the books that I and the rest of my family have read and the documentaries that I and the rest of my family have watched (a lot). All of the information came from independent researchers. I couldn't sat what documents books/ the information came from, they did include pictures, plenty of footage, and statistics/ company names. (It was horrifying). Many of these companies (not strictly talking dairies anymore) won't even let people outside of the company in or answer interview questions because of what goes on it there. I'll see if I can get the names of those documentaries/books to post here. Some of the documentaries might still be on Netflix or Amazon Prime.

All of what you just mentioned is on the West Coast, they're very health/ eco - conscience over there, for the most part. Things are different outside of your region. It's all been hidden from the public by the same companies so that they can protect their profit (farming the way they do they can get a larger mass of food, although that means unhealthy food, this means more profit.) Luckily a small amount of people have found all of this out and gotten the information out, that information has spread. Those companies have have so much money that they'll take down any individual people/ small companies that try to take them to court for it. Some laws have loopholes, easily visible to some people.

And here's something to consider about the whole raw milk issue, you know how bad are food system is all together and how overused conventional medicine is, right? Consider how much that may weaken the immune system of anybody, give it a good thought. Then I'll throw this at you - if an animal is raised in a good, clean environment then anything from that animal should be good to eat or drink. I guess that what I'm trying to say is this - if you put a body that is dependent on antibiotics and vaccines to keep them from getting sick, a body that hasn't been treated quite right, and feed it something that is very healthy and tainted - then your almost destined to get that body sick, it shocks the person's immune system . There is a lot more that factors into this issue than many people think - our food system, our health, the health of our food, and everything else is all connected like a web.
You know SeedO ... those "documentaries" written by " independent researchers" are more often than not written by those that have an axe to grind with any for profit business. My father was a Vet. and practiced in Europe and when we immigrated to the US he was a milk tester for all dairies in San Juaquin County in central Cal. . Then he thought Freshmen Vet Students Anatomy at UC Davis in Cal. for 27 years. I worked at the Veterinary Pathology Dept. at UC Davis . I have been to many a dairy to collect pathological samples during necropsies performed by the dairy resident Vets. as well as random samples for any pathogens that may be present in all areas of the dairies. All samples are tested at UC Davis Bacteriology labs, as well as histology samples studied by Vets. with PHDs. These samples are also sent to State Health Department Labs. for double blind studies. So, I tend to give much more credence to University Scientific research that is pear reviewed rather than " independent researchers". with their slant of views. This thread speaks of cheese ... the cheese is a dairy product and if the processors of dairy milk into cheese , dairies, truckers, stores , etc. all didn't make a profit there wouldn't be any cheese for anyone here to enjoy. If the dairies are as bad as some of these " independent researchers" claim, they wouldn't be in business for very long as the State Health Departments anywhere in the US would step in post haste, and anyone that would get sick would file lawsuits galore.
 

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Wouldn't it be nice to actually have a source for the truth, the incontrovertible truth? Truth that holds up regardless of who is funneling money into the studies, whether they be by universities or by independents? Regardless of who stands to gain or lose from the outcome?
(I don't have an answer for all this...just wishful thinking)
 
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